The Earl of Cumberlands Case

JurisdictionEngland & Wales
Judgment Date01 January 1611
Date01 January 1611
CourtExchequer

English Reports Citation: 145 E.R. 281

IN THE COURT OF EXCHEQUER

The Earl of Cumberlands Case

the earl, of cumberlandh case. It was found by diem clausit extremum after the death of Cx. Earl of Cumberland, that King E. '2 ga-ve to the Lord Clifford (inter alia) the rnannor of Skipton in Craven to him and to the heirs of his body, and found further the discent in a direct line, until the time of H. G, and that the first donee, and all others to whom it descended were seised, prout lex postulat without determining any estate in certain in the donee, and they found that H. 6, by sufficient conveyance conceasit revertionem, nee non manerium de Skipton in Craven to Thomas Lord Clifford, to whom the estate given by E. 2 was descended and his heirs, by force whereof the said Thomas was seised prout lex postulat, and found the discent to the Earl of C. now dead, and found that by tine, and recovery he conveyed an estate in this land to the ue of his brother, that now is Earl of C. in tail, the remainder over to, &c. and died having a daughter now Countess of Dorset, who moved by Dodderidge the Kings serjeant in the court of wards, that this office was insufficient, for by the pretence of the said countess, the h'rat estate given to the Cliffords by E. 2 was a general tail, and then the tine levied, and the recovery suffered by the last earl her father is no bar, but that it may discend to this countess as his heir in tail, and therefore Serjeant Dodderidge said to the lord 282 THE EARL OF (JUMBERLANDS CASE LABE.40. treasurer then present in court, that if this should be allowed, that jurors may finde f enqrally a grant made, and shew no qualitie of the conveyance nor any place, or time, ut if this were a grant of reversion or of a possession he said, that many men by such offices should have their lands given away, whereunto they had no means for uncertainties to take a traverse, and as to insufficiency of this of-[40]-fice, he said, that the insufficiency therein consisted first in matter. Secondly, in form; for the insufficiency of the matter is two-fold. First, because that the office findes only, that King H. 6, by sufficient conveyance not limited any manner of conveyances, nor any quafitie thereof: which ought to be shewed, and it is material, because we may give a different answer thereunto ; for against letters patents we may plead one thing, and against another conveyance we may plead another thing, and so our answer differeth according to the qualitic of the conveyance. Secondly, it is insufficient in matter, because it is found that H. 6 granted the possession, and that he granted the reversion nee non maneriurn which is repugnant, for if the King grant a reversion, then no possession passeth, and if he pass a possession, then no reversion passeth : and therefore it is...

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